Posts Tagged ‘religious freedom’

It is hard to trust Mozilla Firefox with my browsing activities.  They seem to have taken sides in the culture wars in a very mean and personal way, and that takes away my trust.

Andrew Sullivan:

The whole episode disgusts me – as it should disgust anyone interested in a tolerant and diverse society. If this is the gay rights movement today – hounding our opponents with a fanaticism more like the religious right than anyone else – then count me out. If we are about intimidating the free speech of others, we are no better than the anti-gay bullies who came before us.

Robert George:

Mozilla has now made its employment policy clear.

No Catholics need apply.

Or Evangelical Christians.

Or Eastern Orthodox.

Or Orthodox Jews.

Or Mormons.

Or Muslims.

Unless, that is, you are the “right kind” of Catholic, Evangelical, Eastern Orthodox Christian, observant Jew, Mormon, or Muslim, namely, the kind who believes your religious or philosophical tradition is wrong about the nature of marriage as the conjugal union of husband and wife, and the view now dominant among secular elites is correct. In that case, Mozilla will consider you morally worthy to work for them. Or maybe you can work for them even if you do happen to believe (or should I say “believe”) your faith’s teaching—so long as you keep your mouth shut about it: “Don’t ask, don’t tell.”

Terry Mattingly at Get Religion blog, wondering why nobody is asking if religious discrimination was involved here:

So beliefs truly mattered in this case. The question again, for journalists: What are the private beliefs that are under fire, here? In effect, is he being judged for ancient moral and doctrinal beliefs that are held by orthodox believers in Islam, Christianity, Judaism, etc.?


Some impressions:  Many across the country stood up for Brendan Eich.  No one at Mozilla apparently did.  That gives me the impression that Mozilla is not a very diverse place.  Was Brendan Eich the only social conservative there?  What does that tell you about Mozilla’s hiring practices and culture?  How many observant Catholics work at Mozilla?  How many observant Muslims?  I would like Mozilla to show with evidence that it is truly open to all people of all religious faiths before I use its browser again.

My guess is that they at least have some observant Catholics sweeping the floors or cleaning the toilets.  It is pretty clear that such employees will have no hope to be CEO some day.




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A report on the cross examination of David Coppedge in the Pasadena Star-News is here:

During direct testimony, Coppedge told the court his performance reviews changed following a March 2009 dust-up with his direct supervisor Greg Chin. The pair quarreled around Coppedge’s distribution of two intelligent design DVDs “Unlocking the Mystery of Life” and the “Privileged Planet.”

Coppedge testified that Chin told him not to engage in political and religious discussions unless co-workers broached the subjects.

JPL countered Wednesday that Coppedge was only barred from talking about politics and religion during work hours and was free to discuss either during lunch.

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The 2d Circuit Court of Appeals upheld last year New York City’s efforts to deny access to public schools for those who have been holding worship services there, even though every other kind of activity is permitted.  But there is good news: the District Court has granted a temporary injunction to stop the evictions.  The evictions are hitting many poorer and minority congregations, since these are the ones who cannot afford more expensive locations and are scrambling to find alternative space:

“These churches are running into the harsh reality that in New York City, it is difficult to find reasonably priced facilities,” said Jordan Lorence, an attorney who argued the churches’ side in the court case. “They are very expensive in Midtown, or they’re nonexistent in some of the poorer areas of town, where the churches do their work.”

Minorities make up the congregations of many of the churches being evicted, said city Councilman Fernando Cabrera, who is pastor of a Bronx church that’s not affected.

“There’s Koreans, Chinese, Puerto Ricans, African-Americans,” said Cabrera, who was arrested last month while protesting the city’s stance. “They’re staples in our community and they provide a volunteer base that the city can never pay for.”

The 2nd Circuit opinion relies on some pretty strange theology:

The prohibition against using school facilities for the conduct of religious worship services bars a type of activity. It does not discriminate against any point of view. The conduct of religious worship services, which the rule excludes, is something quite different from free expression of a religious point of view, which the Board does not prohibit. The conduct of services is the performance of an event or activity. While the conduct of religious services undoubtedly includes expressions of a religious point of view, it is not the expression of that point of view that is prohibited by the rule. Prayer, religious instruction, expression of devotion to God, and the singing of hymns, whether done by a person or a group, do not constitute the conduct of worship services. Those activities are not excluded.

So groups can meet to sing hymns, but they cannot meet to have a worship service and sing hymns.   Groups can meet for religious meditation services, but not for religious worship services.   Groups can meet for anti-religious teaching, but not for religious teaching if it is part of a worship service.   (It is an unfortunate coincidence that most Christian churches have their primary religious instruction in the context of a worship service.)


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